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ejabberd@conference.jabber.ru
Sunday, April 03, 2005
[00:17] <badlop> sander: i'll not try it this time
[00:17] <badlop> but it's not that hard, so maybe next time...
[00:32] <sander> trying what?
[00:33] <badlop> the index.html thing
[00:33] <sander> k :)
[00:35] <sander> the AIM/ICQ-Transport tutorial is also ready :)
[00:36] <sander> badlop: where can I upload it?
[00:36] <badlop> is it almost identical to the yahoo one?
[00:39] <sander> yes
[00:39] <sander> but there are some differences :)
[00:39] <badlop> so it's better to not merge them, right?
[00:39] <sander> AIM/ICQ-Transport is a bit more difficult :)
[00:40] <badlop> you can create a new 'book page' on drupal
[00:40] <sander> no merge :)
[00:41] <sander> can you make the yahoo tutorial public?
[00:41] <sander> or can I also do that? :O)
[00:41] <badlop> try to do it
[00:44] <sander> maybe I should create a directory "transports" in the tutorials directory?
[00:45] <badlop> leave this to me
[00:45] <sander> k :)
[00:46] <sander> planned: msn-transport, jabber-gg-transport, JIT and ILE...so the list will get big
[00:48] <sander> missing then: smtp-transport, mu-conference, a few IRC transports, yahoo-transport in python,... :)
[00:48] <badlop> ok, and once the other messaging systems die the list will get short again
[00:49] <sander> hehe
[00:51] <sander> http://ejabberd.jabber.ru/node/add/poll-->Access denied :(
[00:51] <sander> isn't that new?
[00:54] <sander> AIM/ICQ-Transport is now also online :)
[00:59] <badlop> ok, 'll reorganize the tutorials
[02:06] <andrek> if somebody can hear me?
[02:13] <sander> yes :)
[02:15] <andrek> graate! can you please help me in jabber technology?
[02:15] <sander> maybe
[02:16] <andrek> I'll try than
[02:17] <andrek> I've been administered MS Windows servers for a few years and at the moment I'm looking for a solution for live communication like jabber
[02:18] <sander> yes
[02:19] <andrek> Since I'm not sophistcatied in Unix system I looked any system than run under Windows
[02:19] <andrek> and I found SoapBox Server 2005
[02:20] <andrek> but is's so expensive!
[02:20] <andrek> and my question is:
[02:22] <andrek> does any Unix-like system include the same service in it's native and what is the best of them?
[02:22] <andrek> Sandrer?
[02:23] <sander> ejabberd runs also under Windows, if that is your question
[02:23] <andrek> is it under under GNU licence an where to find the information about it?
[02:24] <sander> http://ejabberd.jabber.ru/
[02:24] <andrek> and how many users can it serve?
[02:25] <badlop> andrek: as much as your machine can support :)
[02:25] <sander> this can be useful (remark: it is already a bit outdated): http://www.jabber.org/admin/jsc/
[02:26] <andrek> good news! Does it store the data using MS SQl or MSDE?
[02:27] <badlop> it stores using Mnesia, so you don't need to worry
[02:27] <badlop> it's embedded, and already configurated
[02:27] <andrek> Magic!
[02:29] <badlop> Does it store the data using MS SQl or MSDE? <-- when asking this, did you consider ejabberd is cross-platform? :P
[02:30] <andrek> Do you think it's possible to install and administer under Unix box even if you don't really know it good or Windows would be better in this case?
[02:31] <badlop> it's administrated in the same way: webadmin, ejabberd_ctl and using tkabber
[02:34] <andrek> If I understand correctly - the main advantage of using jubber-like system is that it can store data and even if the particular recipient currently is offline - he/she will receive the information. is it right?
[02:35] <badlop> it's right, but that is not the main advantage, there're others :)
[02:36] <andrek> and what are thease advantages?
[02:37] <badlop> compared to what?
[02:39] <andrek> to "there're others"...
[02:40] <badlop> that is not the main advantage, there're others _advantages_
[02:41] <badlop> and advantage is so when others don't have it, who are the _others_ for you?
[02:41] <andrek> i'm sorry if my questions are stupped but I really want to understand this. please describe what does jubber really provide more compared to others?
[02:42] <andrek> for me...
[02:42] <badlop> what orhers? IRC?
[02:43] <andrek> if jabber more then just an IRC?
[02:43] <badlop> jabber is instant messaging, IRC isn't
[02:44] <andrek> that's the difference betw IM & IRC?
[02:45] <andrek> isn't it the same?
[02:46] <badlop> no; have you tried IRC?
[02:47] <andrek> yes. i use VypressChat, is it an IRC or IM. And SoapBox that I'm using at the moments - what's it?
[02:48] <badlop> IRC is standard, as Jabber, but it's obsolete: does not support UTF, is not easily extensible...
[02:48] <andrek> continue please
[02:50] <badlop> it seems you have not read http://www.jabber.org/about/overview.shtml
[02:50] <badlop> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabber
[02:51] <andrek> yes, to be true... I'll do it right now.
[02:57] <andrek> my big thanks to all of you. i'm going to follow the links, but i fill i probably will need to be back. see you!
[03:13] <andrek> sorry, can you please advise the most popular jubber client used under windows?
[03:15] <badlop> google jubber
[03:15] <sulci> badlop: KLI Theory Lab - Authors - Ken Jubber
... __________ Ken Jubber __________. Sociology, Cape Town, South Africa. Jubber, K. 1996. EE und Soziologie. In Riedl/Delpos, Die Evolutionäre ...
http://www.kli.ac.at/theorylab/AuthPage/J/JubberK.html - 10k
[03:15] <badlop> google jabber
[03:15] <sulci> badlop: Jabber, Inc. Enterprise Instant Messaging | Welcome
Provider of custom Jabber client/server solutions for corporations. Major funder of the Jabber.org project and author of the JabberIM windows client.
Provider of custom Jabber client/server solutions for corporations. Major funder of the Jabber.org project and author of the JabberIM windows client.
http://www.jabber.com/ - 43k
[03:15] <badlop> the most populars are Psi and Exodus, and maybe Pandion
[03:21] <andrek> i'm currently using SoapBox 2.1.2 beta, and it's looks nice. will try others to find the difference. thanks again!
[17:00] <sander> badlop: replying to the bugzille seems to be broken: " <bugzilla-daemon@jabber.ru>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO command)"
[17:25] <badlop> i answer using web interface
[17:57] <sander> normally email should also work...